McCain, Obama pursue religious voters at faith forum

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — Presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama courted religious voters Saturday, making their first joint appearance of the campaign at a forum on faith in a Southern California mega-church.

The two men, both Christians, appeared back to back at a two-hour forum organized by Rick Warren, one of the nation's most prominent evangelists and author of the best-selling book The Purpose Driven Life. They shook hands briefly and embraced quickly as Obama finished his hour of questioning and McCain took the stage for his.

Sitting at a table with Warren, each man spoke in often personal terms about his faith in Jesus, confessed his greatest moral failings, and tried to explain — or not explain — his thinking about abortion and marriage.

For Obama, the forum signaled a return to the campaign after a vacation in Hawaii and the start of a weeklong run-up to the Democratic National Convention certain to include the announcement of his running mate.

For McCain, it also marked a ramping up after a low-key week.

For both, it was an opportunity to talk about their faith and the role it plays in public policy, a key pitch to religious voters who could be vital in a close election. They met as religious voters' loyalty to Republicans might be waning, and Democrats might be making some inroads.

Among the points they made:

Greatest moral failure

McCain: ”The failure of my first marriage. It's my greatest moral failure.“

Obama: He experimented with drugs and drank during a ”difficult“ youth when his father had left and he himself was overly selfish. ”I couldn't focus on other people,“ he said.

Most gut-wrenching decision

McCain: When he refused early release from a North Vietnamese prison camp because it would have put him ahead of fellow American prisoners in violation of their code of conduct. ”It took a lot of prayer,“ he said.

Obama: Opposing the war in Iraq at a time when it was politically risky and he thought that Saddam Hussein did mean to harm the United States. He said he did not think Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

On the meaning of their own Christianity

McCain: ”It means I'm saved and forgiven,“ he said. He told how his faith sustained him while a prisoner of war in Vietnam, telling how one of his captors treated him humanely and once secretly drew a cross in the dirt to signal his own faith. ”It was just two Christians worshiping together,“ he said.

Obama: ”It means I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and that I am redeemed through him,“ he said. ”That is a source of strength and sustenance. ... I know that I don't walk alone.“

Three wise people they would consult as president

McCain: Gen. David Petraeus, the architect of the surge strategy in Iraq; Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a veteran of the civil rights movement; and Meg Whitman, the former CEO of eBay, who created more than a million jobs.

Obama: His wife, Michelle, and his grandmother. He said he would consult bipartisan sources like former Democratic Sen. Sam Nunn and Republican Sen. Richard Lugar.

On sending troops to stop genocide

McCain: ”Our obligation is to stop genocide wherever we can,“ he said. He added that the United States can provide material and support, not just troops.

Obama: ”I don't think there is a hard and fast line at which you say we are going in.“ he said. ”If we have it within our power to prevent mass killing and genocide and we can work in concert with the international community to prevent it, then we should act.“

On when a child secures human rights

McCain: ”At the moment of conception. I have a 25-year pro-life record. ... I will be a pro-life president.“

Obama: ”Answering that question with specificity is above my pay grade,“ he said. He said he supports limits on late-term abortions if there is an exception for the health of the mother. But ultimately, he said, he supports abortion rights. ”I am pro-choice,“ he said.

On marriage

McCain: Marriage should be between a man and a woman. He said he'd leave it to the states to regulate, but that he would support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage if a federal judge ordered all states to recognize one state's gay marriages.

Obama: Marriage is between a man and a woman. But he said he would not support a constitutional amendment to define marriage that way, saying that marriage historically is left to the states to define.