Without hesitation, former University of Kentucky star and ex-NBA guard Rex Chapman can recite the defeats from his long basketball career that hurt the most.
As a senior at Apollo High School in 1986, losing to archrival Owensboro in the first round of the 9th District Tournament.
At the University of Kentucky, falling to underdog Villanova 80-74 in the 1988 NCAA Tournament round of 16.
With the Phoenix Suns, losing to defending Western Conference champion Seattle in a five-game playoff series in 1997 after leading two games to one and having Game Four in overtime.
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Yet in a sentiment with which many parents will identify, King Rex said last week that not one of his own basketball disappointments hurts as sharply as watching his son, Zeke, lose back-to-back heartbreakers in Arizona high school state championship games the past two seasons.
"I think I'm taking it harder, and the rest of the parents, than the kids are," Chapman said.
In the 2010 Arizona Class 5A Division II state finals, Zeke Chapman and his Scottsdale Chaparral High School teammates had the ball and were trailing Boulder Creek by one point as the game clock ticked toward zero.
Zeke, a 6-foot-1, 165-pound guard, made a sharp cut for the basket, took a pass from a teammate and appeared to have a state title-winning layup for the making. Instead, a Boulder Creek defender came from the weak side and blocked the shot as time expired.
This season, Zeke and Chaparral made it back to the state championship game. The younger Chapman had a strong showing, scoring 24 points against Betty Fairfax High School.
Yet Chaparral, up 48-44 with 1:28 left, found itself in a tie as regulation ticked down. Zeke again wound up with the ball and this time took a deep, step-back jumper to win the state title.
It missed. Overtime.
At the end of the extra period, Zeke had another chance to win the game. He drove to the basket, tripped and lost the ball out of bounds as time expired. According to the game story in the East Valley Tribune, the Chaparral bench "pleaded for a foul call" but to no avail.
Fairfax won the game in the second overtime, 65-60.
"It's rough, really tough, to be that close to a state title — twice — and have nothing to show for it," Rex Chapman said. "But you know what, as much fun as I had playing, I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed anything as much as I did watching (Zeke) play in high school."
Rex said last week that Zeke is now mulling his college options.
"We don't know yet where he's going to go," Rex said. "He's got some mid-majors, some smaller D-I's (Division I schools) and some of the best Division II programs in the country all looking at him."
Deja vu for Bennett
If you watched Butler lay bricks all around Houston's Reliant Stadium in its 2011 NCAA Tournament loss to Connecticut and found yourself reliving Kentucky's horrid 3-of-33 shooting performance from the second half of its 1984 national semifinals loss to Georgetown in Seattle's Kingdome, you were not alone.
"No question about it, it was Seattle all over again," former UK forward Winston Bennett said last week. "People were talking about how ugly a game it was, and I was thinking 'Yeah, I've been in a game just like it.'"
The '84 Wildcats of Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin, Kenny Walker and Co. only had one half in which it seemed there was a lid tightly capping its basket. Butler, which shot 12-for-64 against UConn, pretty much had an entire game like that.
What happens when an otherwise good team seems to suddenly lose the ability to hit shots when it matters most?
"I think you have to start with the defense," Bennett said. "Connecticut was long and athletic and I think they really bothered Butler. It was the same thing with us against Georgetown. And I don't think UConn had anyone as fierce in the lane as Patrick Ewing and Michael Graham."
Still, Bennett says it's only partly the defense that creates "couldn't throw a beach ball in the ocean" games.
"You get in a situation where you are playing under (tournament) pressure and nobody can make a shot, it builds on itself," he said. "I think that happened to us. And watching Butler, I definitely could see it happening to them, too."
For trivia's sake, can you name the players who hit Kentucky's three field goals in the second half of that 53-40 loss to Georgetown?
Bennett, then a freshman forward and now the head men's basketball coach at Mid-Continent University in Mayfield, had one. His fellow 1983-84 freshman, James Blackmon, had the other two.
Tee one of Brady 6
Tee Martin, the Kentucky wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator, was mentioned in a documentary on ESPN last week. The film Brady 6 chronicles the improbable rise of Tom Brady from the 199th player selected in the 2000 NFL Draft to one of pro football's all-time great quarterbacks.
It takes its name from the number of signal callers selected ahead of the New England QB in that draft.
The six quarterbacks whose names were called before Brady's were: Chad Pennington (1st round, 18th pick); Giovanni Carmazzi (3rd round, 65th pick); Chris Redman (third round, 75th pick); Marc Bulger (6th round, 168th pick); Spurgeon Wynn (6th round, 183rd pick)...
... and Martin (5th round, 163rd pick).
Martin said last week that he did watch some of the documentary. He gives it a thumbs up.
"It was pretty cool," Martin said. "A good testament of hard work, keep plugging. (Brady) was a guy who was overlooked and ended up turning out and winning the Super Bowl."
How does it feel to go through life as one of the quarterbacks drafted ahead of Tom Brady?
"We all felt good about our chances," Martin said. "He's the one that actually got an opportunity and made the best of it. Good for him."