Kentucky thinks it will have playmakers in recruiting class
Everything Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops had to say during his football signing day news conference on Wednesday:
“OK. Exciting day for us. Really good to put the wraps on such a good class. Greatly appreciate our staff and the hard work they’ve done for the past year, past two years in some cases recruiting some of these players. I feel very good about this class. I feel they’re excellent football players, excellent people, very good in the classroom. Feel good about going in state and getting some of the top prospects in state to stay home. Definitely some difference makers that were very important to us.
So across the board very excited about this class, top to bottom. And there still could be one or so out there in this class. And of course we’ll have a couple of spots left to continue to work for the February signing period. So, I like where we’re at.
Q. The in-state guys, how did that come together getting five guys? And how important specifically to get into Louisville was it?
Stoops: I think it was very important. We’ve been working these guys for some time. They’re very — there’s very good players. You don’t know where the players are going to be in state, as I’ve mentioned every year. I think there’s always good quality in this state. Sometimes there’s not always the quantity. This year, there were certainly a good amount of very good football players. And it was a group effort. Really appreciate the work of our staff and certainly Coach (Vince) Marrow, our recruiting coordinator, went in there and had a strong impact and built some strong relationships with these kids, along with our position coaches and other guys. And Coach (John) Schlarman started it years ago in that area. So it was a group effort.
But Coach Marrow will talk to you in a minute, let the big dog come up here in a minute. He certainly did a very good job and definitely had a big hand in landing some of these guys.
Q. Six linebackers in this group. And they’re all kind of considered outside. Do you start them there and kind of see how it works out?
Stoops: They’re versatile guys. There’s definitely some versatile guys. Some of them, there’s the really — there’s a couple really big ones, big outside backers. There’s the athletic guys. There’s some guys that played inside and outside. So there’s a lot of versatility in this group. When you’re a 3-4 you need some linebackers. So outside backer was the biggest area of need that — with defensive back coming into this year. So certainly feel good about what we did at those positions.
Q. Did Josh Allen’s success make it easier for you to get some of these guys?
Stoops: I think that definitely helps. You see the way we feature the linebackers and what we do. And playing heavy dose of 3-4, playing with four linebackers quite a bit definitely helps.
Q. Did you all start with a conscious decision to push into Georgia?
Stoops: We definitely did. We always recruit that area. I think with our success this year being, having some success on the field certainly helps in that area. You know it’s the heart of the SEC in there and everybody goes into Georgia. There’s a lot of good football players in there. But we were definitely dead set on going in there and making sure we get the right players and getting good football players out of that state. They’re definitely there.
Q. Do the outside linebackers draw a comparison to Josh Allen for you guys?
Stoops: That wouldn’t be fair to put it on any one person at this time. Plus you’d be putting down the other guys. Nobody knew Josh Allen was going to be Josh Allen when we were talking about this many years ago, right? I don’t think one person probably had a lot to say, Freddie (Maggard). Yeah, Freddie, Freddie made you all look bad. Why do you think I hired him? (Laughter) so Freddie had it pegged right away.
Q. You had as many as nine early enrollees. Is that a direct correlation to the early signing or just training?
Stoops: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with the early signing period. Once you put the majority of your class to bed, you can move on to the next class. And I just walked out of a meeting — Vince can attest to this — maybe three minutes ago and wasn’t very pleasant, to be honest with you. I appreciate our guys’ effort but it’s on to the next. It’s on with developing our players that we have, pushing them academically to meet the standards we want and recruiting the right guys in ‘20. So there’s no rest, no time to sit back. But it does speed things up. So we need to be working hard on ‘20s right now, and as we get out in January and February we’ll do that, and also with finishing up this class. But I think it does speed things up a bit. There’s quite a few players that are getting in position to get out early, which it’s really good for them. It’s good for the players. This has been going on for some time. The first couple of years you were maybe a little skeptical, just see how it works out. But I’m in total favor of it. I think it’s very good for the young men.
I think spring is a much easier semester for the student-athletes in football because the fall is just so extremely busy. Their time demands are through the roof. And it’s very strenuous mentally and physically and so when you come in in the spring, got an opportunity to get your feet on the ground and help you academically, physically get going and lifting weights and then spring is so much slower because you only have 15 practices, and it’s very fundamental in the spring. It certainly helps.
Q. Do you remember what it was like enrolling in the fall as a player?
Stoops: Yeah, it’s definitely like drinking with a firehose. There’s just a lot going on. It’s very, very fast. Things move fast. And it’s just so monotonous. It just takes time. Just day after day for so long it gets very difficult on those freshmen. And we talk about it, I think a lot of coaches do. At some point guys can look really good, but they’re going to go through ups and downs because they’re not just used to that consistency for that long. And certainly hit some highs and lows and at times hit a little bit of a wall that you have to help push them through.
Q. Only one running back in the class. Does that show you how much faith you have in Kavosiey (Smoke) and A.J. (Rose) and some of the guys coming in?
Stoops: Without a doubt. We felt very good with Chris and Kavosiey and A.J. going into the year. You heard me talk about it throughout the year, we really wanted to see those guys, but when you have Benny and A.J., it’s hard to get to those guys. But Kavosiey and Chris, when you did see them you saw the talent that was there and the maturity and how physical they are. They’ve got some speed. So definitely felt like we could just go with one running back at this point in this class, yes.
Q. On getting speed and playmakers on offense.
Stoops: I think that’s always important. It’s across the board to get difference makers. It changes the digits on the scoreboard and certainly on defense the same way. We needed some — we needed to make sure we went and got some defensive backs and some corners.
Q. On overall how this season’s success helped build this class.
Stoops: I think it definitely had an effect. I don’t think there’s any question. You look at some of the guys that we closed on, some of the guys we got, some of the guys in state had an opportunity to go to quite a few schools and chose to stay home. And when we went out of state, again, the same way. You look at the battles that we had with some of these kids, went down to the wire again last night. I’m not going to mention any names, but there’s schools and there’s people top 10, traditional top 10 powers calling our kids up until last night. We fought them off and got the signatures this morning.
Q. You mentioned the word versatility. Do you ever recruit some of these guys knowing that you can maybe switch their positions?
Stoops: Definitely. You recruit some kids as athletes and knowing that they’re just — I just want them wearing blue. And exactly where they end up, sometimes you just have to figure it out.
Q. Talk about your wide receivers that you brought in, the guys help make plays like DeMarcus Harris?
Stoops: Tae Tae and DeMarcus, both guys that are very productive, both guys have an ability to catch the football in traffic and catch the ball with people around them. You look at DeMarcus and the production he had in the state of Florida. Remarkable. He can go up and catch the football and, again, make contested catches. And very, very excited about him. His father’s a football coach and plays for a guy, Mark, his father, coaches. And DeMarcus plays for a friend of mine down there at Vero that I’ve known for 15 years. Comes from a very good program. Good coach. So very excited about that. And Tae Tae is another guy that can really run. And that was something that was very, very important to us. It was very evident to us when we saw him in person and watched him in camp and in practice that he can go and had another gear. And that was certainly important for us to get.
Q. What did you like about the two quarterbacks?
Stoops: Again, winners, both of them are winners. Both did an unbelievable job leading their team to state championships. And just winners and playmakers, just the things we’re looking for. Obviously, they can throw the ball. They can run it a little bit. They can ad-lib. But they’re also very, very serious about the job. They work extremely hard at studying and have been very productive.
Q. The position groups, you’re still looking at specifically with those last four or five spots? Or just best available?
Stoops: Best available. We’re working on one defensive back right now late into the day here. Maybe have some news later on today. We’ll see. And then obviously I want to carry some forward into February. I want to have some available. You never know what’s going to happen, what’s going to shake out. There’s a lot of talk and motion with kids nowadays with transfers and things of that nature, and certainly just the recruiting, the guys that are available still. And we’re on some really good kids that we knew were going to take it into February. And we’re still going to continue to battle with those guys as well.
Q. On signings at outside linebacker and also cornerback. Are those two positions you thought that maybe you had to fill right away?
Stoops: Without a doubt. Yeah, without a doubt. We definitely wouldn’t have recruited junior college players if we didn’t feel like there was a need to come in and help. That doesn’t mean that it’s a guarantee. But both of these guys are very good players. And Brandin Echols is a corner that we all know we need some help in that area. And Marquez Bembry is an outside linebacker, unbelievable speed and can run and change directions. So both of those guys should help.
Q. Two defensive linemen out of Ohio were pursued by other top schools. How difficult is it to recruit interior defensive linemen?
Stoops: You know, that’s a great point it’s such a key with Cavon and Isaiah, both really good football players. When you go, and you’ve heard me talk, and you know just watching and seeing recruiting, you have big defensive tackles that are big and athletic and playmakers, they’re hard to get and they’re hard to hold onto. And we really did a good job as a staff. Again, Vince was the lead guy on both of those guys and did an excellent job in landing them. And that definitely was not easy. And really did a good job as a staff and Vince did a great job of holding them down the stretch.
And I was on the phone texting back and forth with Cavon until about 10:30, 11 last night, I said, I’ve got to get up early tomorrow, dog, I’ve got to get to bed. But I wasn’t going to go (laughter).
Q. Is that the hardest position to recruit? Are there fewer defensive tackle prospects out there?
Stoops: Yeah, I think it’s fair to say. D tackles are just so important. And everybody wants the big, long, athletic guys. And they’re difference makers. And this league, that’s one of the positions that really changes. That’s one of the positions that separates the top from the bottom. And you look at the great programs and the teams traditionally in the top 10 they’ve got some defensive linemen. Obviously they’ve got a lot of other things as well but you’ve got to have some D-line.
Q. When you’re having success and maybe you can get in some doors that you couldn’t get in previously and have a chance, how do you balance that against not neglecting the hungry, less rated type of kid you’ve been able to develop in the past?
Stoops: Yeah, I think that’s a great point and something that we’ll always do. We’ll always trust our evaluations and what we do and when we go on kids. There’s examples of that in this group that we went on kids early, when not a lot of people knew about them and weren’t highly rated. And then eventually they would move up. But we trust our evaluation on that. And we’re always going to do that with the core group of guys that come in and hit that piece that we always talk about, that developmental piece. And you always gotta make sure you get the right guys. And Jimbo (Fisher) used to call those guys the glue, the glue guys and the guys that are just solid and excited to be here and are going to work extremely hard, do things right and you can win a lot of football games with them.
Q. Eli Cox another local offensive linemen who signed with you guys, joining Landon (Young) and Drake (Jackson), what about these local guys?
Stoops: Eli, he wanted to come in. He saw those guys having success. He saw the way our offensive line plays and wanted to be a part of it. So we’re very excited about Eli, and he was a fun guy to recruit. He’s the type of guy we’re looking for. He’s a Kentucky kid that wants to play here and wants to continue that legacy of playing very, very physical, tough offensive line play. So that wasn’t a very hard sell. And we’ve been doing some very good things with our offensive line. And it’s great to add Eli.
Q. Given a lot of this class has already committed during the season, do you expect on-the-field success year to pay off more in the next class?
Stoops: Yeah. That’s a good point as well. And we do. I think certainly we have a good feel and a good jump on ‘20. And there’s some good players and there’s some good players within a two-, three-hour radius of here that have great interest in us and we’ve had on campus many times and we’ll continue to do that and certainly the winning should help.
Q. What kind of conversations was he having with J.J. Weaver in final weeks?
Stoops: Well, again, you have to understand, number one, what these guys go through. And they’re entitled to change their mind. And then also they’re trying to do things sometimes and announce that on their own terms. And that gets very hard and frustrating for them. At no point did we have any concern whatsoever that he was going to sign with us. It was just a matter of how and when he wanted to do it. And that’s what gets tough. And then everybody reads into it. He has a ton of family that’s coming that he wanted to do it in February. So he just really wanted it around all of his people, to be quite honest with you. It had nothing to do with — but everybody reads into it. And there is a lot of pressure. Let’s not kid ourselves. And believe me I wanted his signature this morning as well.
But he was very, very good about it. Very respectful. Unbelievable family. There was never any doubt about that. And it was just a matter of semantics. Just a matter of how you’re going to go about doing it. And a lot of people sometimes read into that. And rightfully so because sometimes things have happened before and that’s going to happen. And we learned to deal with that and move on very, very quickly.
But we weren’t antsy with J.J. We felt very good about J.J. and what he was going to do. He was very open and honest with us, and he was great. So terrific family. Terrific young man. He was solid as a rock with us.
And as far as them saying then, well — again, things happen. Things happen and coaches change. And so I understand the story there. And young kids have to understand as they work their way into this spotlight, you know, what they say sometimes can bite you in the ass. Just take a look at some of the things I’ve done over the years, right? So you just have to — they’ve just got to understand that, get here, get media training and everything. But again, fantastic young man. Never a problem for us at all. It was just a matter of when, where, how to go about signing.
Q. Is there a benefit to playing in a Florida bowl when you’re going after a lot of these kids; did you see that a couple of years ago?
Stoops: I don’t think it ever hurts to get down there and play. And most importantly to play on New Year’s Day in such a big bowl against a quality opponent and that exposure is really going to help you. But playing down there definitely helps as well.
Q. What was your reaction when you saw all the ticket allotment for UK had been sold out?
Stoops: It didn’t surprise me. I knew we were getting close. It was a matter of some singles and top rows and things like that. But the majority of our tickets sold out very quickly. Doesn’t surprise me. And again we greatly appreciate it and look forward to seeing a bunch of blue down there. Our color blue. (Laughter).
Q. When you started the early signing period did you envision it being like this, that it could be 20 signing now and just a few signing later?
Stoops: We were unsure probably going into last year exactly what would happen. Because last year was a little different. And Vince can talk about this some, too, because even last year as we prepared all these players for the signing, they were so used to doing it in February, that they were waffling a bit with — waiting until February. We’re like no, no, let’s get — let’s get this done. If you’ve been committed for six months, let’s get it in the books.
So this year, I guess, would be easier process than last year being that it was the second year in a row. But, yeah, we were unsure and I think the players spoke a year ago with, again, whatever that percentage is, 90 some percent I think of Power 5 players signed in an early signing period last year. I don’t know what it’s like this year.
So it’s good. I tell you, it’s brutal. It’s a brutal December. There’s no doubt about that. And it’s a hard month. So you feel good about it and everybody’s like, yeah, don’t you want to go celebrate? No, I want to go to bed. (Laughter) but we have to go prepare for Penn State right now. So we’re right in the middle of that. So it’s been real. And I’ll talk to you guys later. I gotta go to work, basically, going to get back to work here.
Q. Amani Gilmore talked about playing baseball. What are the challenges in that?
Stoops: I encouraged him to do that. He was football all the way. But I felt like Nick owes me one on that because I told him, I really did, I felt like he was too talented. I felt like he’d regret it. I was a dual sport player coming out of high school and wanted to do that in college. I never got the opportunity. I wasn’t good enough really, to be honest with you, to play both and was always scrapping for a position, got hurt. It just never worked out.
And I always wish I had that opportunity and I don’t want him to feel that way. I feel like he’s too talented. He could throw. We practiced every other day, 15 practices. There’s no reason where a guy with that kind of talent shouldn’t go explore it and go throw a little bit. He could throw the baseball. And I’m sure Nick can use an arm. So that will be — it will be good to see him.
Q. Baseball kept him out of the camp circuit and I know that’s where a lot of guys get ranked. Do you prefer that guys go get their rankings up on the camping circuit, or do you like when they’re a little bit ... ?
Stoops: I could care less at that point. You won’t care either a year from now or two years from now when he’s in there playing. Doesn’t really matter. The stars don’t matter.
Q. Does it make it easier for you?
Stoops: Does it make easier? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, we knew him. Michael Smith had a relationship with him, knew his dad and knew of Amani for a long time. Maybe it helped us. I know once we offered and he had such a good year, and in fact he didn’t play a year also slowed him down — but once he started lighting it up this year, he got plenty of attention.
Q. What’s the big difference for you from the first class you came in here to now in terms of what these recruits say to you, what you’re sort of selling them? The program is in a different place, how does that change?
Stoops: I think early on there was plenty of really trying to find the diamonds in the rough. And we certainly won, certainly in year two maybe, Vince, we won some big battles and got some marquee players. But there was still a really good dose of those diamonds in the rough type guys Josh Allens and guys you had to find that had you to project. And this year as you move forward you start recruiting guys that you feel like are definitely a little bit, you know, maybe more developed coming out of high school and can project a little bit easier for us.
And it’s also good because we’re in there competing with some traditional powers and beating them at times. And it’s never easy. And I never said that I told you day one that we were going to compete with traditional powers and recruiting and we’re going to win some and we’re going to lose some. But we’re going to battle them and do things right and I think players can really come in here now and see what we have in effect, the program that we have in effect, top to bottom, the way we develop players in all areas of their life. And they can believe in that, they can see it. They can see the results.
Q. Is it an easier thing to sell?
Stoops: I think it’s easier in that way as well because the organization is more organized. There’s more people in place. There’s good people in place. Their production has been there. And they can see it. And I think that helps as well.
Q. We all know a lot of attention is made when guys flip away from UK this year. Does the conversation change with recruits once they’re verbally committed in some way, or do you just keep saying still keep recruiting everybody all the time?
Stoops: At this day and age with some players, if they’re verbally committed, it just means you’re in the lead. And so you better — we never stop recruiting. So we’re always on the phone recruiting. Like I said, with Cavon, I was texting back and forth until 10:30, 10:45 last night. And then I turned it over to Vince and said I’m going to bed, make sure he stays — I said stay on him, big dog, all night. (Laughter) But no, you’re going to stay recruiting all the way through. We never take things for granted and we never — believe me we don’t worry too much about the ones we don’t get either. Believe me, it’s personal. We recruit hard. We put a lot into it. And we’re all competitors. But we’re going to get the ones we’re supposed to.
Q. What are your expectations for Moses Douglass? He’s kind of a big kid.
Stoops: That’s a great point. Because not a lot has been said about him. He’s such a dynamic player because he’s been so solid to us. Wouldn’t even take another trip. And the kid has been offered by practically the entire Power 5. And so can play just about anywhere in the country and has been recruited by almost all those schools in some form or fashion. And he’s just been so solid with us and remarkable family. He is a guy that we should not take for granted because he’s been so solid. He’s a talented football player. Very good size on him and again very versatile. But no, he’s a safety.
Q. He’s a bigger guy. Does Douglass project as a linebacker?
Stoops: No, he’s a safety. We like big safeties. He’s not nearly as big as Sean Taylor and everybody told me Sean Taylor was going to be a safety.
Q. A lot of people talk about his football intelligence. What have you observed there just being around him on these visits.
Stoops: Doesn’t surprise you. Again, being Mo’s son and — son of a coach — and they’re constantly working at it, whether it’s watching film, working out, around, seven-on-sevens, and he’s with his dad and around football all the time. And so it doesn’t surprise me that he has a high football IQ.
Q. There’s been a lot of social media buzz about parents putting on the uniform. Did you guys feel you were ahead of the curve when you let Nik Ognenovic ... ?
Stoops: He was the only one. I thought he was the player. No, no. We saw Nik, yeah, he’s a big dude. So he looks good in that uniform. As for the rest of them I don’t know if we’ll do that all the time (laughter).
Q. What’s the story on Taj Dodson?
Stoops: Yeah, we’ve been on him all year and brought him in this past weekend got him committed finally. So he’s a guy that we’ve liked and recruited and he’s been I guess relatively quiet in the recruiting front and just kind of going about his business and going through his visits. We had an opportunity to get him up on campus and got him committed. And so I was very excited about that. Big need.
Q. Helps to have some of the big corners like Dodson?
Stoops: Yeah, he’s definitely got some range on him. That’s for sure. He’s got some good length and he can run but, yeah, real good size and he can run and change directions. So definitely very excited about him, yeah. We needed it. We needed some bigger corners. I don’t know if we could ever get as big as we were this year. Those three monsters. But we’ll continue to look for them.