Surprise pension bill wins final approval in Kentucky legislature. Teachers outraged.
Republicans uncorked a surprise 291-page proposal Thursday afternoon to overhaul Kentucky’s ailing public pension systems and gave it final approval hours later as the chants of angry teachers echoed through the Capitol late into the night.
The public never had a chance to look at the bill before the Senate voted 22-15 to give it final passage at 10:15 p.m. and sent it to Gov. Matt Bevin for his signature or veto.
“Tonight 49 members of the Kentucky House and 22 members of the Kentucky Senate voted not to keep kicking the pension problem down the road,” Bevin posted on Twitter. “Anyone who will receive a retirement check in the years ahead owes a deep debt of gratitude to these 71 men & women who did the right thing.”
House Majority Floor Leader Jonathan Shell and state Rep. John “Bam” Carney, chairman of the House Education Committee, introduced their proposal to the House State Government Committee as a substitute to Senate Bill 151, which had dealt with sewer system regulations. The committee then promptly approved the amended bill and sent it to the full House, which began debating the measure minutes later.
“After days and weeks of lying to the public about Senate Bill 1 being dead it was reworked a little bit,” state Rep. Angie Hatton, D-Whitesburg, said of the pension reform bill that has been stuck in the Senate for weeks. “And instead of being flushed out, it was flushed into this House floor as an amendment to a sewage bill.”
After more than three hours of debate, the House approved the bill 49-46 and sent it to the Senate, where debate began within minutes.
No actuarial analysis has been done on the bill, as required by law, so its fiscal impact on the state’s pension systems is unclear. They have an unfunded liability of more than $40 billion.
Republican lawmakers hailed the bill as a compromise.
“This is SB 1 without the provisions people were concerned about,” said Rep. Chad McCoy, R-Bardstown. “We listened to you, we heard your concerns and we took those things out.”
During the House debate, Carney said the bill would provide “zero” short-term savings in the next two-year state budget, but he expects that ratings agencies encouraged by signs of pension reform will raise Kentucky’s credit ratings, making borrowing cheaper.
According to a summary, the bill would place teachers hired after Jan. 1, 2019, in a hybrid cash-balance plan at Teachers’ Retirement System of Kentucky rather than a traditional pension, but it would not reduce the annual 1.5 percent cost-of-living adjustments for retired teachers, which was a controversial part of Senate Bill 1. Retired teachers in Kentucky do not get Social Security benefits, so any freeze in their pensions affects their total retirement income.
Retirement eligibility for future teachers would increase to age 65 with five years of service or the “rule of 87” (when the employees’ combined age and years of service equal 87). The “inviolable contract” that protects reduction in future employee benefits would be limited to account balances in the cash-balance plan. Cash-balance plans are less generous than a traditional defined-benefits pension but offer more retirement security than a 401(k)-style defined-contribution account.
Contribution rates would be 9.105 percent of salaries for teachers, with the state kicking in 6 percent and school districts providing another 2 percent. For educators at state universities who participate in the pension system, the employee contribution rate would be 7.625 percent, with a 4 percent employer contribution.
Current teachers could not count payments for sick leave days accumulated after Dec. 31, 2018 toward their retirement benefits.
For state workers who are enrolled at Kentucky Retirement Systems — and who who have been placed in hybrid cash-balance plans since 2014 — sick leave could not be used for the purposes of retirement eligibility “or to reduce applicable actuarial penalties for retirements occurring on or after July 1, 2023.” A state employee who retires after Jan. 1, 2019, and returns to a state job would not get a second retirement account at KRS.
State retirees also would lose a $5,000 death benefit, payable to a designated beneficiary, state Rep. James Kay, D-Versailles, said in the House floor debate.
As lawmakers debated in the House, a vocal group of about 70 teachers shouted protests outside the chamber.
“Vote them out,” they cried.
“We’re madder than hornets,” said retired teacher Claudette Green of Lexington, who taught in Elliott and Carter counties.
Some of the protesters had difficulty entering the Capitol. Bradford Queen, a spokesman for Democratic Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, said she called Kentucky State Police Commissioner Rick Sanders late in the afternoon because locked Capitol doors kept teachers from entering the building while the legislature remained in session. Sanders was not available for comment.
Advocacy groups for public employees protested Thursday that sweeping changes were being made to the pension systems with no chance for the public to review them.
“Introducing a cobbled-together pension bill grafted on to a sewage bill in the waning days of the session without actuarial analysis and an opportunity for meaningful feedback is an insult to stakeholders,” said Jim Carroll, spokesman for Kentucky Government Retirees. “The latest version of the pension bill assaults the contract rights of most KRS-covered employees. There is no reason to believe it will produce significant reduction in liabilities. KRS stakeholders remain adamantly opposed to changes to a pension system that was comprehensively reformed just five years ago.”
Pensions are an important part of the benefits package for teachers, said Brent McKim, president of the Jefferson County Teachers Association.
“Forcing new teachers into a cash balance retirement plan will hurt their retirement security and will undermine the commonwealth’s ability to compete with other states to attract and keep quality educators. Also, rushing the bill through without an impact analysis, as required by law, is not democratic and invites expensive litigation that could void the bill if it is passed into law,” McKim said.
According to Kentucky Revised Statute 6.350, any bill that makes changes to the state pension systems shall not be reported from committee unless accompanied by an actuarial analysis.
Over the objections of Rep. Jim Wayne, D-Louisville, who said the bill was illegal, the committee disregarded the statute, citing a Supreme Court ruling. Later, Stivers contended that the actuarial analysis completed for Senate Bill 1 is sufficient for the new bill.
The House plan comes on the 57th day of this year’s 60-day lawmaking session. Lawmakers have been grappling with the pension issue for months, but have failed to reach consensus on how to address the problem in the face of overwhelming opposition from teachers and other public workers.
“This is a solution that will help ensure the solvency of our pension system for years to come,” said Carney, R-Campbellsville, when introducing the bill on the House Floor.
The proposed cuts to teachers’ cost-of-living adjustments in Senate Bill 1 made up most of the $3.2 billion that legislation was projected to save. Without the COLA cuts, Carney said, the latest pension plan will save around $300 million over the next 30 years, or less than 1 percent of the state’s $40 billion unfunded liability.
When asked why the bill should be passed if it saves little money, Carney said the legislation would still help solidify the state’s credit rating and that moving new hires into cash-balance plans will reduce the state’s pension liability after 30 years.
He also said the plan will help House and Senate Republicans compromise on a state budget, though it was unclear how the pension bill would impact the budget.
“I think it keeps the budget in play,” Carney said.
Senate President Robert Stivers, R-Manchester, said late Thursday night that there will be legislation in the last days of the session to provide financial relief to local governments facing huge increases in their pension contributions in the fiscal year that starts July 1.
But he said it would not be in the form of Senate Bill 66, which places a 12 percent cap for the next decade on increases in pension contributions required by cities, schools, libraries and regional universities. Without the cap, some local governments would see increases of 70 percent or more.
Through all stages of the debate, Democrats strongly objected to the bill as the muffled cries of teachers could be heard through the doors.
“The question is how can you guys shave in the morning without cutting your throat,” state Rep. Tom Burch, D-Louisville, asked Republicans.
Senators are getting police escorts through the crowd as they exit the chamber.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 30, 2018
After the Senate gave final passage to pension bill, crowd chanting “shame on you.”
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 30, 2018
Senate gives final passage to SB 151, which started today as a sewage bill and turned into a pension bill. Teachers and Democrats are livid, but they don't run the legislature, Republicans do. The bill goes to Gov Bevin. ^JC pic.twitter.com/bhlKIXPcDh
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Sen. Joe Bowen says he regrets that anybody is confused by what is in SB 151, the 291-page bill that is being rushed through the House and Senate this evening and that isn't posted online or available to the public yet. ^JC pic.twitter.com/GuCq9OR5b9
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
"We're not passing this bill as a solution. We're passing this bill to say we've done something, to get a political win," says Sen. Morgan McGarvey. And it comes at a cost to our teachers' benefits, he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/VXe6RIUfK2
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
"We're not passing this bill as a solution. We're passing this bill to say we've done something, to get a political win," says Sen. Morgan McGarvey. And it comes at a cost to our teachers' benefits, he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/VXe6RIUfK2
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
The best way to fix the pension systems' funding problems is with better funding, which we're already doing, Sen. Morgan McGarvey says. None of the structural changes in SB 151 seems to make a big difference beyond that. ^JC pic.twitter.com/A8gSL4Foru
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Sen. Joe Bowen says that with these structural changes in SB 151, we should bring Ky Retirement Systems up to 90% funded in 20 years. Moving to a cash balance plan, we will save $569 million in the teachers' system alone. ^JC pic.twitter.com/pDzscjib5N
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Sen McGarvey: This bill does not change status of unfunded liability today. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
The teachers are very close to the Herald-Leader office in the capitol. They're now chanting "West Virginia." (Teachers in West Virginia recently went on strike for 9 days)
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 30, 2018
Sen. Webb: We’re shifting the risk of pensions to teachers. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
"I would urge people not to buy into the talking points or the hyperbole," Senate GOP Leader Damon Thayer says of the new sewage/pension bill. Ky teachers are the 7th highest paid in the country, he adds. ^JC pic.twitter.com/yJVua0wRvc
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Thayer says balanced hybrid retirement plan for new teachers works in other states. Says it provides portability. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Sen Thayer says a lot of hyperbole out there about new pension bill. Notes much has been eliminated in it from original plans. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Republicans in the Capitol are smirking tonight because they've shoved their pension bill through the legislature, despite the opposition of teachers, Sen. Ray Jones says. But they won't be smirking in November, he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/OSz3JnWurU
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Jones says new pension bill will destroy everything teachers have worked for for decades. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Thousands of school teachers will be affected by SB 151, and none of them can read this cobbled-together bill because it's not posted online, it wasn't vetted at a public hearing, says Senate Democratic Leader Ray Jones. ^JC pic.twitter.com/SXPb0lBsby
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Jones speaks against new pension bill. Says it has never been vetted by a Senate Committee. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Stivers judges that a roll call vote approves House committee sub to SB 151. Debate is on in Senate for new pension bill. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Sen. Joe Bowen says SB 151, the sewage/pension bill, is basically his doomed SB 1, but without the cost-of-living-adjustments cuts for retired teachers. It will put the pension systems back on a path to solvency, he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/mymLc21VX4
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
The bill does move KRS members hired after 2013 from their current cash balance plan to the new cash balance plan.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 30, 2018
Stivers says motion to adjourn is not in order. Jones challenges the ruling. Stivers said no Second was heard to do that. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 30, 2018
Senate Democrats now move to adjourn the Senate, hoping to head off a vote on the sewage/pension bill. (Throw everything at the wall, see what sticks.) Motion not appropriate, Senate President Stivers says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/N3soesOZgr
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Sen. Jones moves to table the pension bill. Vote on his motion, 13 for, 23 against. It fails. Jones now moves to adjourn. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
The Senate vote to table - or delay a vote on - SB 151, the sewage/pension bill. As you can see, the Republicans have a large majority in the Senate, and this Democratic motion did not pass. ^JC pic.twitter.com/M0SAOyCEPD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Senate takes up new pension bill. Senate Minority Leader says it has had no testimony and lacks an actuarial analysis. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
SB 151 is already in the Senate. They’re taking it up to concur right now. Ray Jones raising objection to the vote.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
This will be an important document for many Kentucky voters in November. #kyga18 https://t.co/gAtQOMNhqQ
— Tom Eblen (@tomeblen) March 29, 2018
With that, the bill has passed 49-46. Was introduced in committee this afternoon, passed by 7:30. 11 Republicans voted no and three Republicans didn’t vote. pic.twitter.com/VPSM3bNp1O
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Rep. Melinda Gibbons Prunty, reading from text, says the teachers she knows are aware that their pensions are an unsustainable Ponzi scheme, and they want her to vote for the changes in today's sewage/pension bill. ^JC pic.twitter.com/2IZ94VXYfm
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Update: 11 Republicans are on the board against it. Three Republicans not voting.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
N: Blanton, L. Brown, Huff, Goforth, King, Moffett, Morgan, Riley, York, Couch and Stewart.
Not voting: Bechler, Hoover, and Lee
Rep. Dean Schamore to Republicans in Ky House: Remember when you folks mocked Nancy Pelosi for admitting she voted on a bill she hadn't read? Can you people tell me you read this 291-page sewage/pension bill that just landed on our desks? ^JC pic.twitter.com/fK2wpNUr0P
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Shame on you, you are corrupt, shout teachers protesting new pension bill outside House chamber. ^JB pic.twitter.com/LeLoJ0hPEG
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Lee is here, he just hasn’t cast his vote. Hoover isn’t here. I can’t tell whether Bechler is here.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
KEA Pres Stephanie Winkler and SOS ALGrimes join protesting teachers outside House chamber. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Forgot Morgan. He’s the 9th.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
House voting on the pension bill now. Nine Republican are on the board as no votes: Huff, Blanton, L. Brown, Goforth, King, Moffett, Riley and York. Another four not voting: Hoover, Bechler and Lee.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Teachers outside House chamber shouting, Change your vote.^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Angie Hatton: She has problems with "that whole stinking mess and the sewage bill it rode in on!" ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Senate President Stivers says full Senate plans to vote on new pension bill Thursday night if the House approves it. ^JB
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Outside of Frankfort, I have a lot of constituents in Fayette County who tell me "enough is enough," you tried to save the pensions, go ahead and let them fail, that will teach 'em, says Rep. Robert Benvenuti. ^JC pic.twitter.com/m1bJuus5nv
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Benvenuti says Carney is demonstrating political courage. Carney's carried both of the House Republicans' most controversial bills over the past two years.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Last year: Charter schools
This year: pensions
I can guarantee you that my old teachers never would have yelled names down into the House chamber, says Rep. Robert Benvenuti, chiding the teacher protesters in the gallery, and you can guess what happens next. ^JC pic.twitter.com/eyDubxZPoU
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Robert Benvenuti says the needs of taxpayers are getting lost in the debate over pensions. "I refuse to talk about who is valued more, whether it is the school teacher or ... the business executive," he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/wwVEtIaQLT
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
As Kentucky eliminates pensions in the private sector and now in the public sector, what will it look like when almost nobody can afford to retire anymore, asks Rep. Joni Jenkins. ^JC pic.twitter.com/rTjHGbqWkr
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Joni Jenkins: Earlier today a bill sponsor agreed to fix a mistake I caught in a 17-page bill. This sewage/pension bill is a 291-page bill, and most of us have no idea what's in it, and GOP leaders are frantic to cram it thru right now. ^JC pic.twitter.com/xaXq3xWWhz
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Tweet from Gov. Bevin as House debates pension bill. (His office has not responded to my request for comment) https://t.co/68ONnH5QtQ
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
State Rep. Rick Nelson tells us "No" on our question about the local gov't pension phase-in. So maybe that's just an informal part of a backroom deal. We dunno. ^JC https://t.co/YGkMjP8s38
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
A Kentucky librarian tells us the House sewage/pension bill "allows for a phase-in of pension costs for CERS participants." Anyone who have a copy of the actual bill know if this is true? And hey, maybe just send us the bill, period. ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Jeff Greer suspects House GOP members were ready for today's ambush on the sewage/pension bill. "I see their speeches are nicely printed. I think they had time to prepare." ^JC pic.twitter.com/Ifv2kHxTce
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Fayette County Education Association President Jessica Hiler on the House sewage/pension bill: "I am disappointed by the actions of the majority party. Their actions today have proven that they don’t respect public school teachers." ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
According to (@adambeam’s copy of) the bill, it only raises the retirement age for new hires. Current teachers will still be able to retire under the current rules. pic.twitter.com/19YbMBtMs8
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Jody Richards, a former (and longtime) House speaker, predicts a lot of goofs will be found in the sewage/pension bill based on the way it was hastily slapped together and rushed to passage today. We should have paused, he says. ^JC pic.twitter.com/MqFbPu0GzZ
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
State Rep. Jody Richards tears up as he talks about a teacher he knows who went to work every day, even when he was sick, and now the Ky Leg is going to cut his benefits out from under him. ^JC pic.twitter.com/giZHwLzG98
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
State Rep. James Kay asks why the House sewage/pension bill takes away a $5,000 death benefit from public employees, In reply, state Rep. Bam Carney says he can't really explain that. ^JC pic.twitter.com/orK6fFFjS1
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
"It will save money over time, significantly." Carney says. He told us earlier it would save $300 million over 30 years. That's less than 1 percent of the $40 billion unfunded liability.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
"This is SB 1 without the provisions people were concerned about," McCoy said. "We listened to you. We heard your concerns. And we took those things out."
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Republicans are bringing up the fact that this bill apparently will help the Senate pass SB 66, which provides relief to local governments and school boards throughout the state. I'm not sure what action the Senate has taken on SB 66 today.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Rep. Bam Carney says his sewage/pension bill will save "zero" money in the next two-year state budget, but he thinks rating agencies will raise the state's credit ratings as a result, which should make borrowing cheaper. ^JC pic.twitter.com/6NAKNjsvRQ
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Moser touts cash-balance "Despite what the nay-sayers say, the system does work."
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
The big advantage for the state on cash balance is that it moves some of the liability on the state onto the employees.
Rep. Kim Moser (@5boymom): "There's no dispute that KTRS as it currently exists today is still structurally unsound." She says COLAs aren't properly funded. Says benefit enhancements and sick leave applied to retirement were done for purely political reasons.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
State Rep. Rick Nelson: It's my understanding the deal is the House throws the Senate something called "pension reform" to save face, and the Senate will agree to the phase-in on local gov't pension increases and some tax increases in the budget. ^JC pic.twitter.com/f1WG9oAMjT
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Also, did the Republicans think about the optics of tacking a bill onto a sewage bill? Seems like they're writing the Dems ads for them....
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
In KTRS, teachers will be eligible for retirement at age 65 (with 5 years) or rule of 87. It moves new hires into the hybrid cash balance plan proposed by the Senate. Sick leave benefits can't be used toward retirement. No changes to COLA for current members and retirees.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Ok, I got a copy of the summary: In KRS, members hired between 2003 and 2008 will contribute 1 percent to insurance. It eliminates sick leave credit for retirement eligibility for retirements on or after July 1, 2023. It appears they keep their current cash-balance plan.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Something being overshadowed in the debate. Carney was coy, but he said the pension bill helps keep the budget in play. Seems to insinuate that the house is passing the bill so they can get something in the budget. Whether that's their tax increases ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
I'd refer to SB1, but Carney said he wrote this bill himself. So I genuinely have no idea what he chose to include and not include. (Still hoping to obtain a copy of the bill if anyone out there has one)
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
I'm also confused about how it impacts how teachers and state employees can calculate their pensions. Do teachers still get to use their three highest salaries? Or does it shift them to a high five?
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
As GOP and Dems go into talking points, here's what I'm confused about: Carney seemed to imply that his bill doesn't touch KRS. I think that means state employees will stay in their cash balance plan that guarantees them a 4 percent return.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
Jeff Hoover in November 2016: “There is nothing more frustrating than being asked to vote on legislation, whether it’s in committee or out on the House floor, when you’ve not had a chance to review it, you’ve not had a chance to read it. ... That practice has to stop." ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
"I am embarrassed as an educator by the actions of the 1 percent. We have had grandchildren of members of the assembly come home from school crying," Carney says.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
A teacher in the gallery calls him a "scab."
Rep. Bam Carney: "If you would please get past the rhetoric and deal with the facts," you would see the Ky Leg is working to help teachers with pensions, not hurt them. "I am embarrassed as an educator by the actions of the 1 percent." pic.twitter.com/EAIC6aTVOU
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Jim Wayne wants to table the House GOP sewage/pension bill so lawmakers have time to study it and gather data. Republicans say there is no time, must vote on it right now. Wayne's motion is defeated. ^JC pic.twitter.com/khzYGSljTa
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Jim Wayne: "To bring a bill of 291 pages to the House floor" with no public hearing, no actuarial analysis, no outside testimony, and "I dare say that nobody in this chamber has had a chance to read the bill," is wrong. ^JC pic.twitter.com/BH8kKFf99h
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
"This is not a perfect bill," state Rep. Bam Carney says of Senate sewage bill he today turned into a House pension overhaul bill that hardly anyone has read yet. Outside the House, angry teachers are chanting. ^JC pic.twitter.com/I7YGx35bm1
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
From Ky Gov't Retirees: "Introducing a cobbled-together pension bill grafted on to a sewage bill in the waning days of the session without actuarial analysis and an opportunity for meaningful feedback is an insult to stakeholders." ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Adkins is challenging the ruling of the chair that it is legal to pass the pension bill without an actuarial analysis. Says he has never challenged the ruling of the chair before. ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Pension bill is being heard on the house floor now. Rocky Adkins railing that state statute says you can’t pass a bill without an actuarial analysis.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Ky Dem Party: "House Republicans continue to wage their war against teachers in Kentucky by sneaking this pension bill into an unrelated bill and voted against the standard 24-hour review period.” ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
The pension bill passes through House Committee (on a senate bill). Rep. Phil Moffett only Republican who votes against the bill.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
He keeps stressing that he’s a teacher. (He carried the charter school legislation for the same reason).
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Here’s the statute that talks about GA needing an actuarial analysis before they vote: pic.twitter.com/2E2Nl8I86g
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Rep. Jerry Miller says (accurately) that several states have cash balance plans, so this won’t be unique to KY.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
You can clearly sing teachers singing “Hey, hey, hey goodbye.” You have to imagine some in GOP are thinking of politics during this meeting. ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Wayne asks for a representative for teachers organization to testify. Jerry Miller says no. “We have heard loud and clear how teachers feel about SB 1. Outside the room teachers are chanting. Their muffled chants can be heard in the room. ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Shell: we know teachers don’t get into this profession just for the pension or just for the salary.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Graham asks how the bill impacts inviolable contract. Shell says sick days are not in the inviolable contract.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Hybrid cash balance plan is the same as in SB 1, Shell says.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Burch asks how GOP reps “can shave without cutting their throats.” Carney says “you had 40 years to fix this” to Burch.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Carney keeps mentioning the phase in detailed in SB 66. I can’t say definitively whether that’s in the bill (I don’t have a copy) ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Derrick Graham is holding up the bill (it’s hundreds of pages) says he doesn’t think it’s fair to ask members to vote on it.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Shell says that they do not have an actuarial analysis on the bill, but they can move forward without one based on a court ruling.
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
“This is the first step to try and find a solution to solidify the pension system going forward,” Carney says. Sounds like it’s similar to the Senate bill but without COLA cuts. ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
Carney said there are changes to sick days in the bill and said it doesn’t cut COLAs. Says it makes changes to formula to how retirement benefits are calculated. ^DD
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) March 29, 2018
House has introduced a pension bill in House State and Local Government Committee. Tacked as a committee substitute to SB 151. Carney and Shell behind it.
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) March 29, 2018
This story was originally published March 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM with the headline "Surprise pension bill wins final approval in Kentucky legislature. Teachers outraged.."